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My Screaming Rant About This!

Being a complete spoiler whore, when I came across Spoiler Sides for Episode 11, I checked them out. What I read made me absolutely want to track Joss down and beat him about the head. I know it's spec, and nothing is confirmed, and there's probably more to the episode than this... but... my journal, my opinion!

As previously reported by Filmjerk, there is a mentally disturbed
young woman named Dana who has been in a mental asylum for about 10
years. When she was a kid of 10 years old, her family was murdered
and she was taken away by the murderer and tortured for months. She
was found eventually, dazed and catatonic, and has been
institutionalized ever since. She has superstrength and if she isn't
constantly sedated she goes berserk. A nurse mixes up the meds one
day, Dana doesn't get her sedative, and she breaks out.

For some reason both Spike and Angel have heard about this
separately. It seems as if they are rival "do-gooders" now. Angel
is annoyed when Spike shows up at the asylum to investigate at the
same time he does. They both talk to the doctor a bit, then Spike
leaves saying it's time for action. Angel stays around and talks to
the nurse. She wants a job with W&H and she shows Angels some
videotapes and pictures she's not supposed to show him.

Dana is in a grocery store chowing down on Hostess Ding Dongs, and
snapping the clerk's arm like a twig when he asks her to pay for the

Later there's a street scene with a bloody corpse. Spike arrives and
sniffs the blood, prepared to track the perp (who I guess is Dana).

Spike also runs into Andrew (yes, Andrew from BtVS!), who is freaked
out by the bloody corpse and screams like a little girl. Evidently
it isn't their first encounter in LA; Spike tells Andrew to go back
to Wolfram & Hart, and Andrew talks about how Giles has been training
him and he is now 82% more manly than he was before. He also shows
Spike a variety of weapons stashed inside his coat.

There is also a scene with Lorne, a real estate agent, and someone
named Vernon who I think is a psychic. They're walking through a
house that I think is Dana's childhood house. The psychic is talking
about what happened to her and her family, and how "her pain is still

There are flashbacks with Dana at the age of ten, screaming in fear
at a man in jeans and work boots whose face is never seen. He's
called the Humming Man because he hums all the time. He is preparing
torture devices for Dana.

There is no casting side for the Humming Man himself. My guess is
that the Humming Man is actually Spike, or at least the audience is
supposed to think it is. It's also mentioned that he wears a black
teeshirt, and when adult Dana sees a dark-colored teeshirt she freaks
out and has a memory flashback.

Later--brace yourselves, because this is upsetting--Dana evidently
must have gotten hold of Spike, knocked him out, and chained him to a
radiator somewhere. It's mentioned that his arms are stumps, and
Dana has a saw: evidently she sawed off Spike's hands. Fred has
arrived with an ambulance and a med team and is taking Spike back to
her lab to operate on him and give him new hands..

Gods, I wish it were legal to go out and kill and maim and rend things limb from limb. I am LIVID and HEARTBROKEN at the same time!!!


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Nov. 7th, 2003 03:49 pm (UTC)
I'm with you
You already know my feelings on the matter. I'm reading others' posts on a couple other boards and they're being cautious about getting too upset too soon, but for me it has nothing to do with plot arcs and shansus and deranged Dana, but has everything to do with White Hat Spike getting mutilated and tortured while trying to do the right thing.

My head hurts. My heart aches. I am pissed.
Nov. 8th, 2003 10:38 pm (UTC)
I share both your feelings
I already told Deana this - this is perverted, disgusting, revolting AND grotesque! I don't know if I've left anything out.

WTF is WRONG with ME? Did * they * come back wrong?
Nov. 9th, 2003 12:22 am (UTC)
*smashes things*
Just been sent the spoilers for 11 by my friend. It's bloody sick, hell it nearly made me sick!!!!

I don't know who wrote it but I'm gonna cut off their hands so they can't write anymore...

All we need is Angel laughing at Spike at the end of the episode and that'll make my day just perfect.
Nov. 9th, 2003 12:29 am (UTC)
Re: *smashes things*
You would think we've been through enough already - what with Glory's torture, the First's torture, Pavayne's torture, etc.

Now this shit??? Does this sound like respect for Spike and his sacrifice??? Hmmm?? Yes, I reiterate. I am just blown away that they would now resort to mutilation, however temporary - you might restore the hands, but you'll never remove the memory... what W&H did about Connor notwithstanding.

Hurt, livid, pissed off beyond pissed off. Check out nimuetucker. Starting a campaign for the ethical treatment of Spike's character, etc.
Nov. 9th, 2003 12:37 am (UTC)
Re: *smashes things*
I love Angel as well as Spike but you can't even begin to compare the two. Spike tried to do good even when he was all demon *licks lips*, asked for his soul back, and then sacrificed himself for the world. Angel got his soul forced upon him and spends his life being grouchy and whinging all the time because of it. Yet Angel is treated like a freaking God by the writers!!!!

Confused I am.....and very hurt.

Shall join campaign.

Shall probably not watch any more of Angel.

We all know how it's going to end...and it won't be good news for Spike!!!!!!
Nov. 9th, 2003 12:41 am (UTC)
Re: *smashes things*
I'll watch it to the bitter end, and pray that it's NOT so bitter for our boy. I've always watched Angel - like him when he's NOT attached to Buffy. But right now, I'll just be gritting my teeth and hoping that this, too, shall pass.

And it all sounded so promising through episode 10, too. Dunno your spoiler status, so won't say anything right now, and I'm heading for the bedding... so I'll get back to you tomorrow with other opinions, if you care to discuss. We could actually do the email thing if we go spoiler heavy.

Thanks for being indignant with me... more, tomorrow. Promise. Nite.
Nov. 9th, 2003 01:28 am (UTC)
Re: *smashes things*
At least the Bangel's not going to happen....thank you Sarah!!! LOL

I'm not so positive about the other spoilers as you are....but I havent read them all in detail. I think the whole season'll be spike losing out as always. Hopefully I can bring myself to keep downloading it.

But we can discuss that tomorrow. LOL

night night


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